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geebsSupposedly the way Lost all ends has been revealed to Matthew Fox, but I won't link to the article, and while he didn't really say any spoilers, I've already pushed it all out of my mind because I have my hopes and theories for what happens next. I usually don't mind being spoiled, but I guess its more, if the plot is going to go a certain direction, I don't want to know about it and be disappointed for several months.
The big thing I'm wondering about is if Juliet did end up changing time with what she did. It is my hope that they didn't change time and did just cause the incident PF Chang (well, I don't know what Miles' dad's middle name is, but it amuses me to think it starts with F so I can use the nickname I just used. Perhaps its Pierre Francoise Chang!) talked about, and the incident wasn't just things getting out of control once Radzinsky drilled into the pocket. And hey, with things going the way they were going, if Juliet didn't blow up the nuke, what would've stopped it from going out of control and destroying the island and possibly the world? Hey, they did say later (well, later than 1977, earlier in the show, obviously) pushing the button was preventing the world from being destroyed! Perhaps it does a similar effect! I guess its obvious I favor the "fulfilling destiny" theory.
I prefer the "time is set" idea of time travel, and that any thing someone did in the future to change the past is already accounted for in the time line. I mean, I did enjoy the new Star Trek movie (oops, spoiler!) and the Back to the Futures. But I'm not a fan of changing my past, no matter how horrible a thing may have happened in it. I think we are our experiences, and changing that is almost like killing a part of yourself!
Like in BttF, sure, Marty's life turned out for the better from going back to 1955, but these are a different set of people he's interacting with now. He only knows his old timeline. Like if he ever tried to have a real and deep conversation with his family and friends, he prolly wouldn't know half the stuff they talked about happening.
Or in ST, while I do think the new timeline seems "cooler" (though that may just be because its more "modern"-seeming), it just seems creepy to find out that there was a way your life went, but because some dude in the future changed something in the past, your life went a drastically different course. Its like that version of you was killed or rather written out of existence.
I dunno, maybe its a perspective thing. Like even though there are things in my life I didn't like how they turned out, I wouldn't want to change them, because those experiences made me the me I am today. And I don't mean they made me a better person because I learned from those mistakes or whatever, because I kinda suck. I just mean those experiences are literally me. If Zoe Graystone is to be believed on Caprica, the construct that is us is dependent on the things we've gone through. So to change that, we wouldn't be ourselves anymore. Best case scenario, you still retain the memories of the old timeline, but while things may be better for you in the new timeline, interacting with people will be weird, because they've experienced a different timeline than you have from the point the timelines diverged. Worst case scenario (well, the real worst case is a paradox is caused and the whole time-space continuum collapses into itself), a new you is created, and you fade into nothingness, while this new version of you takes your place.
But I digress, the whole perspective thing- while I wouldn't want to change my past, if I found out something bad was going to happen in my future, I would try and change that. Since that's not me yet, it should be fine changing things in my present without destroying that which is me. Well, it kinda destroys that future version of me, but that's not me yet. Which does seem kinda a-holish to not want to mess with my present self, but be fine with unwriting my future self into non-existence.
But heh, a few months ago, when some people thought the world was gonna end, I said, if the world did end, I woulda been pissed because I would never know how BSG and Lost would end (save for pestering those guys in the afterlife). I prolly woulda been better off not knowing how BSG ended, and I hope that's not gonna be the case with Lost. But I would be quite annoyed if the world ended before I saw how Lost turned out.
As an addendum, I would also not like the world to end before all the Harry Potter movies have come out. While I read the books, and in general still think the books were better than the movies, it just feels unfinished if I don't end up seeing how they were all translated into the big screen.
The big thing I'm wondering about is if Juliet did end up changing time with what she did. It is my hope that they didn't change time and did just cause the incident PF Chang (well, I don't know what Miles' dad's middle name is, but it amuses me to think it starts with F so I can use the nickname I just used. Perhaps its Pierre Francoise Chang!) talked about, and the incident wasn't just things getting out of control once Radzinsky drilled into the pocket. And hey, with things going the way they were going, if Juliet didn't blow up the nuke, what would've stopped it from going out of control and destroying the island and possibly the world? Hey, they did say later (well, later than 1977, earlier in the show, obviously) pushing the button was preventing the world from being destroyed! Perhaps it does a similar effect! I guess its obvious I favor the "fulfilling destiny" theory.
I prefer the "time is set" idea of time travel, and that any thing someone did in the future to change the past is already accounted for in the time line. I mean, I did enjoy the new Star Trek movie (oops, spoiler!) and the Back to the Futures. But I'm not a fan of changing my past, no matter how horrible a thing may have happened in it. I think we are our experiences, and changing that is almost like killing a part of yourself!
Like in BttF, sure, Marty's life turned out for the better from going back to 1955, but these are a different set of people he's interacting with now. He only knows his old timeline. Like if he ever tried to have a real and deep conversation with his family and friends, he prolly wouldn't know half the stuff they talked about happening.
Or in ST, while I do think the new timeline seems "cooler" (though that may just be because its more "modern"-seeming), it just seems creepy to find out that there was a way your life went, but because some dude in the future changed something in the past, your life went a drastically different course. Its like that version of you was killed or rather written out of existence.
I dunno, maybe its a perspective thing. Like even though there are things in my life I didn't like how they turned out, I wouldn't want to change them, because those experiences made me the me I am today. And I don't mean they made me a better person because I learned from those mistakes or whatever, because I kinda suck. I just mean those experiences are literally me. If Zoe Graystone is to be believed on Caprica, the construct that is us is dependent on the things we've gone through. So to change that, we wouldn't be ourselves anymore. Best case scenario, you still retain the memories of the old timeline, but while things may be better for you in the new timeline, interacting with people will be weird, because they've experienced a different timeline than you have from the point the timelines diverged. Worst case scenario (well, the real worst case is a paradox is caused and the whole time-space continuum collapses into itself), a new you is created, and you fade into nothingness, while this new version of you takes your place.
But I digress, the whole perspective thing- while I wouldn't want to change my past, if I found out something bad was going to happen in my future, I would try and change that. Since that's not me yet, it should be fine changing things in my present without destroying that which is me. Well, it kinda destroys that future version of me, but that's not me yet. Which does seem kinda a-holish to not want to mess with my present self, but be fine with unwriting my future self into non-existence.
But heh, a few months ago, when some people thought the world was gonna end, I said, if the world did end, I woulda been pissed because I would never know how BSG and Lost would end (save for pestering those guys in the afterlife). I prolly woulda been better off not knowing how BSG ended, and I hope that's not gonna be the case with Lost. But I would be quite annoyed if the world ended before I saw how Lost turned out.
As an addendum, I would also not like the world to end before all the Harry Potter movies have come out. While I read the books, and in general still think the books were better than the movies, it just feels unfinished if I don't end up seeing how they were all translated into the big screen.
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