just a fool to believe, she's like the wind

[geebs]

You know, I'd heard the term "Black Irish" before, but never knew what it meant until the first five minutes of Black Donnellys. I noticed before when some of youse on the flist were posting pics of this show before it debuted, but what's with three of the four brothers having been on both CI and SVU?! Kevin was the Manson type kid on CI who got the three girls to kill a bunch of people and that they later used to get evidence on the kid who's judge father was played by O'Brien and fancied he and his friends the new ratpack (the kid, not the judge) and father and son had both banged some drunk midwestern teen visiting NY in a class trip and the mother dumped the body. Jimmy was on CI as some poker whiz kid who was being used for his poker skillz by the guy who murdered his father (unbenknownst to him). And Tommy was the kid on SVU with the whacko negligent mother who made him kill his little brother and attempt suicide by telling him they'd be sexually abused and die in foster care if they were taken away from her and put there and lying about his older brother, saying that's what happenned to him in foster care, when he was totally alive.

Oh wait, Tommy was also the 100 Girls guy. You know, since Larisa Oleynik played the girl next door best friend, I assumed she was gonna be the girl when this movie first came out. But it was the slutty art girl played by Emmanuelle Chriqui! (Alex Mack instead ends up with the competitive athletic chick played by Katherine Heigl, because their characters end up both great big lesbos! Although Iz being a lesbian just because she's into sports, stereotypical much?)

While I'm channelling imdb, Jenny is of course played by Olivia Wilde who played Alex on the OC. Coincedentally, both she and another OC-er, Autumn Reeser, played minor characters in "The Girl Next Door". I was going to say they were "blink and you'll miss them characters", but they actually had lines and were in more than two scenes, albiet in the background. Evangeline Lilly in "Freddy vs Jason", now that's "blink and you'll miss them".

Anyways, interesting show. I had a feeling the person driving the car that crippled Jimmy was a kid by the way it was driving. I didn't guess it being Tommy though. Though they didn't need to add that reason for Tommy to be always looking out for Jimmy, I would think the fact they're brothers is compelling enough. I mean, who turns their back on family? But I guess that makes it even more impossible for Tommy to turn his back on the guy when everyone says he should just let him go and make something of himself.

But ah, they went the old, when there's no easy play to make, just kill a bunch of people route. I suppose he was just trying to save his brother's life, because I guess he wasn't thinking too far ahead, else he'd realize he'd be starting a war between them and the eye-talians (and mebbe even the micks, depending on which way the wind blew) And ironically, the head eye-talian just wanted to kill Jimmy and willing to let the other three live, now his nephew's prolly in control, and its obvious he just wants to kill them all and take over their neighborhood. But I've always liked that loyalty. Tommy gets his cop friend to put Jimmy into rehab, then when he goes to handle the Italians, he doesn't even have to explain anything, Kevin just follows him, no questions asked.

Although Jimmy's plan was ridiculously stupid! Who the frak tries to clear his gambling debt by kidnapping the nephew a made man?! And once he saw their faces, wouldn't he know they were effed?! They didn't think they'd give up the money and let bygones be bygones afterwards. And he'd have to know that none of them were safe out in the streets!

Not much to say about, GG, other than being disappointed in Logan. Just when you think he's turning into an okay guy, the first time he runs into problems (granted, they're pretty big problems!) he backslides and becomes the drunk jerk again. And I know he doesn't want to deal with his dad's smug I told you so crap, but I'm thinking his dad prolly has a way of dealing with those patent lawsuits so Logan's not totally ruined. And I guess they're paving the way back for Luke and Lorelai by having him do things instead of just staying in a rut.

So on VM, the killer was Tim? Ah, I was suspicious of him, but he seemed like too good of a suspect that I thought he might be a red herring. I mean, he did have access to Landry's clothes since he was on dry cleaning duty and the fact that they dropped that when he asked Veronica to be his TA was a big clue, to remind those who'd forgotten that from several eps ago. Though, you'd think Landry, being Mr. Criminology Professor would realize that, but I guess the point was that he thought Tim was a moron so the idea that Tim could frame him never crossed his mind.

And Tim fell for one of the classic blunders, being unable to resist talking about things and incriminating himself. Yeah, the class brought the subject up, but the way he took off his jacket, trying to be all smooth like, and being all, "Well, if you really want to talk about it..." you could tell he wanted to brag about how frickin' smart he was and what a good job he did of framing Landry. Which would work, if Veronica wasn't in the class! If you're going to bug phones to get access to info, make sure you properly file in your head what you know, and what people think you should know! When discussing such details, make sure to watch what you're saying and not saying something you're not supposed to know.

But like I said, part of his motivation I guess was to show Landry up. Anyways, so do Logan and Parker really have V's blessing? I mean, its sounds like she's okay with it, but is she really? And will Parker still go for it when Logan tells her Veronica is okay with it?



Is it me, or is that dude in the gym who had Fall Out Boy on his MP3 phone totally closeted? "His lady", yeah right! And what the hell, in that WAMU commercial, the lady is all "What will they say at the club?!" but the captioning "Why don't they stay in the club?" That makes no sense, why would they need to stay at the club. Again, the deaf are screwed. They must be very confused half the time with captions being so wrong.

Speaking of being confused, why does Claire on Heroes only have a Sidekick 2? Veronica Mars upgraded her 2 to a 3. Its just odd, because I figured if T-mobile was going to do product placement on a show, wouldn't they want the character to be using the newest model in the line?

Comments

[clevemire.livejournal.com]

I looked up black irish after Conan O'Brian called Alec Baldwin a "black irish bastard" in a guest spot on 30 Rock. Anyway, I hated the ending of the Black Donnellys. He's the good kid, the art student, did everything he could to stay out of trouble. Then he takes out a bodyguard and a room full of armed mafiosos John Woo style? How does that make sense?

[geebs.livejournal.com]

I wouldn't say its totally non-sensical. I thought the whole point was that he stayed out of trouble because he crippled his brother. And he never wrote Jimmy off because he felt responsible for putting him down that path. I think up until that fateful night, he thought if he just stayed good and bailed his brother out whenever he needed help (chastizing him as he did so) that that would be enough.

But then his brother did something that Tommy couldn't easily bail him out of and he does something drastic. I think he's perfectly willing to throw everything away because of how he resposible he feels for Jimmy's gimpy leg. And just because he's the good kid, I don't think that doesn't mean he doesn't know how to be bad ass. Just by virtue of being the brother of crazy irish boys and having to constantly bail them out of trouble, I think he knows how to handle himself.

Plus, even though they were checking him for weapons, I don't think they legitimately expected someone to pull a stunt like that and kill a high up mafioso and the head irish guy of their neighborhood. I mean, people think to check for guns, but who thinks to check for a knife small enough to tuck under their collar?

[clevemire.livejournal.com]

Not that he was willing to go after them, that made sense... it was trying to rip off the Godfather, when the good kid Michael kills Solozzo and the Police Chief. But Michael was nervous about it, hesitated, looked like he was going to puke. Tommy was like a ninja. Whether they were expecting him or not, after taking out the bodyguard, the guys inside seem to have heard a commotion and started to react, yet Tommy still was able to walk in and take every single guy in the room down without breaking a sweat.

[geebs.livejournal.com]

Well, I think there are a couple of ways to explain the lack of hesitation, including that in his insane (but gutsy!) plan there could be no hesitation. Because if he messed up and died, then he and his brothers were dead.

And who knows maybe he threw up later and we just didn't see it- Tommy seems very controlled with his emotions. I mean, keeping mum when you know you crippled your brother for life, not telling the girl you love you love her out of respect for her marriage, even though you know her husband is dead? (Granted, there are prolly other reasons he's not saying anything to her) But I think a guy who can wear a mask to the people closest to him can hold off on throwing up after murdering a couple of people until he has some alone time.

Though it is pretty effed up that a couple of young guys could so coldly off a bunch of people, so I guess you do have a point in that it seems pretty unrealistic. Maybe they're all sociopaths!

[isabel79.livejournal.com]

I considered watching The Black Donnellys, but I'm fed up with NBC right now... With their crap promotion of FNLs and the fact Grease sucks. I don't want to get hooked on a show that may be canceled / go on for one season. But now you mention black Irish. Hot... Lol. Maybe if it replays, I'll check it out.

[geebs.livejournal.com]

Sell, it does repeat this Thurday (tomorrow) at 10pm. So if you wanna catch it, nows your chance.

[isabel79.livejournal.com]

Ooh thanks. I checked to see when it replayed and only saw reruns on USA / Bravo next week after the 2nd ep airs. I was like what!?! So I'll definitely check it out.