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geebsTV commentary:
12 Monkeys- Some crazy reveals, and a nice callback to the movie. So the first hour, Olivia interrogates Jones, even giving her visions of Olivia killing Hannah over and over until it finally breaks her. Only that was the plan all along- let Olivia learn about the time/place of the weapon so she'll go back there with Titan, Katrina in tow.
Now Team Splinter's machine doesn't have the juice to go back that far. But with the data from Elliot on Titan and Katarina's own tether, now they can follow Titan right where they need to be. Deacon asks why Jones went through all that torture, but she had to to make it believable. Can't let Olivia get it too early. Unfortunately, unbeknown to them, Jones accidentally exposed Deacon as a double agent during one of the interrogation sessions. (though it ends up not being a big deal, because Deacon figures out on his own that Olivia knows the truth, and ends up killing his would be killers first)
Anyways, the first hour also has some nice parallels between Hannah and Emma. Hannah was apparently sent away by Jones to the oughts in order to 1) see what she's fighting for, since she grew up in the apocalypse, and 2) find James' mom. But yeah, seeing how much Jones cared for her daughter during Olivia's torture sessions kinda highlighted what an incredibly shitty mom Olivia is. So she runs away, also to the oughts, where she takes the name... Marion Woods. Hannah finds her and they go on the run.
Meanwhile, back in the middle ages, the gang finds the weapon the primaries built, and we also get a closing of the loop from the season premiere. So it turns out Jennifer wasn't un-Primaried, they were just keeping quiet so Olivia couldn't hear them. But yeah, as seen in the premiere, they saw their deaths coming, and were in fact necessary to stall Olivia and her forces. But yeah, team Splinter goes for the weapon, and while they do that, the weapon's inventor, Nicodemus, who is Chorus' father, gives Chorus the Ouroboros puzzle to take and be found in the future, starting this whole quest off.
Alas, the Primaries didn't stall long enough, as Olivia and her minions catch up, killing Nicodemus and seemingly rendering the weapon defunct. And so Olivia gets ready to execute Team Splinter, decapitating Deacon first. He at least gets a hero's speech, having taunted Olivia into killing him instead of Cole first. If he had to do it all again, he would always sacrifice himself for his friends.
Turns out this is vital, because stalling his execution for even a few seconds allows Adler to get the splinter vest he just fixed to Cole. He saves the ladies, transporting them back to the future, but alas, Olivia quickly paradoxes the area, so Cole can't save Deacon or the weapon.
But it turns out its not a total loss. Old Jennifer, who had shown up back alive when Jennifer was splintered to the past tells Jennifer the data for the weapon has always been in her head. At first it seems like gibberish, but then they realize its a program for the machine, one which includes all the dates they splintered to.
At first, they think the solution is to stop the plague from happening. They grab the virus before the Pallid man, and plan to destroy it. Only they're met by older Hannah, who tells them that won't work- Olivia got Titan working as intended so now she's outside of the timestream, messing with causality won't undo things anymore. And if they stop the plague, they stop the Jones reason for making the time machine, uncreating the only weapon they still have.
Also, in the lab when they were stealing the virus, they seem to highlight even more that the corpse with the virus is Cole, what with flashes of Jennifer saying "something about his eyes", which gee, what is the one feature Jennifer always brings up about him?
Hannah also tells him about his mom, how she was from another time, and sacrificed herself saving him, and I'll tell you why that's clever in a minute. Cassie and Cole go to the airport to release the virus. Obviously, Cassie has huge compunctions against this, but she has no choice. Only, Olivia is using witness powers to possess people to watch them, and then possesses a cop to try and kill Cole. Only Hannah jumps in the way, saving him, and its all very shades of the original movie.
But why did she do that? Because she's his mom! aav('WHAAATTT!?') So how can this be? Anyways, Olivia sent assassins for her daughter (mother of the year, that one) and they chase Hanna and Emma down. They get into a car crash, and make it to a stranger living in a trailer in the woods. We know its Cole's dad, but they don't. At first, we're meant to think this is how Emma and Matthew meet.
Only, Emma was shot during the chase, and soon collapses. Matthew takes her to the hospital, but she dies. While Hannah waits in the trailer, she figures out who he is, and it all becomes clear. Anyways, she stays with him, and slowly falls for him, and given the timey-wimeyness of at all, its the first time she ever believed in fate. Alas, she knows how the story turns out. And so when she gets pregnant and realizes Matthew is going to propose, she runs away, coming back only to give him the baby.
(heh, when she was describing Cole's mom to him, an astute observer would note that the description totally applies to Hannah to, given Hannah and Emma's similarities)
And then she just kept away, watching young Cole and her mother from afar, until the fateful night she met back up with them on the way to the airport. Cole doesn't even realize he knows his mother until its too late. It is pretty crazy, particularly back in the earlier seasons where they had to cure young Hannah and fake her death so Jones would make the machine. Little did he know was ensuring his own birth. And it always seemed like there was a motherly vibe between James and Katarina, turns out it was Grandmotherly. The whole thing is so tragic that Cassie, defeated by the insanity of it all, drops the virus vial (wait, she didn't have the breather, wouldn't she be infected?)
So yeah, once they discover the truth, Katarina and James splinter a bit earlier to talk to Hannah before she meets up with Cassie and Cole. The three generations have one last drink before letting fate resume its course. And its really a sad storyline.
And things are gonna be even worse for James- while the stuff in 2017 is happening, Jennifer, Jones, and Adler try to make sense of the program sent. As Jennifer says, it was well hidden, so why would the Primaries "gift wrap a needle in a haystack". Which is when they realize those dates are just Cole's splinters. Entering the dates into the program and running a simulation shows it will fix time.
But what it means is the weapon is meant to erase James from all points in time. Because it turns out he's the demon in the story, not Olivia. So it'll be interesting to see how this all ends.
12 Monkeys- Some crazy reveals, and a nice callback to the movie. So the first hour, Olivia interrogates Jones, even giving her visions of Olivia killing Hannah over and over until it finally breaks her. Only that was the plan all along- let Olivia learn about the time/place of the weapon so she'll go back there with Titan, Katrina in tow.
Now Team Splinter's machine doesn't have the juice to go back that far. But with the data from Elliot on Titan and Katarina's own tether, now they can follow Titan right where they need to be. Deacon asks why Jones went through all that torture, but she had to to make it believable. Can't let Olivia get it too early. Unfortunately, unbeknown to them, Jones accidentally exposed Deacon as a double agent during one of the interrogation sessions. (though it ends up not being a big deal, because Deacon figures out on his own that Olivia knows the truth, and ends up killing his would be killers first)
Anyways, the first hour also has some nice parallels between Hannah and Emma. Hannah was apparently sent away by Jones to the oughts in order to 1) see what she's fighting for, since she grew up in the apocalypse, and 2) find James' mom. But yeah, seeing how much Jones cared for her daughter during Olivia's torture sessions kinda highlighted what an incredibly shitty mom Olivia is. So she runs away, also to the oughts, where she takes the name... Marion Woods. Hannah finds her and they go on the run.
Meanwhile, back in the middle ages, the gang finds the weapon the primaries built, and we also get a closing of the loop from the season premiere. So it turns out Jennifer wasn't un-Primaried, they were just keeping quiet so Olivia couldn't hear them. But yeah, as seen in the premiere, they saw their deaths coming, and were in fact necessary to stall Olivia and her forces. But yeah, team Splinter goes for the weapon, and while they do that, the weapon's inventor, Nicodemus, who is Chorus' father, gives Chorus the Ouroboros puzzle to take and be found in the future, starting this whole quest off.
Alas, the Primaries didn't stall long enough, as Olivia and her minions catch up, killing Nicodemus and seemingly rendering the weapon defunct. And so Olivia gets ready to execute Team Splinter, decapitating Deacon first. He at least gets a hero's speech, having taunted Olivia into killing him instead of Cole first. If he had to do it all again, he would always sacrifice himself for his friends.
Turns out this is vital, because stalling his execution for even a few seconds allows Adler to get the splinter vest he just fixed to Cole. He saves the ladies, transporting them back to the future, but alas, Olivia quickly paradoxes the area, so Cole can't save Deacon or the weapon.
But it turns out its not a total loss. Old Jennifer, who had shown up back alive when Jennifer was splintered to the past tells Jennifer the data for the weapon has always been in her head. At first it seems like gibberish, but then they realize its a program for the machine, one which includes all the dates they splintered to.
At first, they think the solution is to stop the plague from happening. They grab the virus before the Pallid man, and plan to destroy it. Only they're met by older Hannah, who tells them that won't work- Olivia got Titan working as intended so now she's outside of the timestream, messing with causality won't undo things anymore. And if they stop the plague, they stop the Jones reason for making the time machine, uncreating the only weapon they still have.
Also, in the lab when they were stealing the virus, they seem to highlight even more that the corpse with the virus is Cole, what with flashes of Jennifer saying "something about his eyes", which gee, what is the one feature Jennifer always brings up about him?
Hannah also tells him about his mom, how she was from another time, and sacrificed herself saving him, and I'll tell you why that's clever in a minute. Cassie and Cole go to the airport to release the virus. Obviously, Cassie has huge compunctions against this, but she has no choice. Only, Olivia is using witness powers to possess people to watch them, and then possesses a cop to try and kill Cole. Only Hannah jumps in the way, saving him, and its all very shades of the original movie.
But why did she do that? Because she's his mom! aav('WHAAATTT!?') So how can this be? Anyways, Olivia sent assassins for her daughter (mother of the year, that one) and they chase Hanna and Emma down. They get into a car crash, and make it to a stranger living in a trailer in the woods. We know its Cole's dad, but they don't. At first, we're meant to think this is how Emma and Matthew meet.
Only, Emma was shot during the chase, and soon collapses. Matthew takes her to the hospital, but she dies. While Hannah waits in the trailer, she figures out who he is, and it all becomes clear. Anyways, she stays with him, and slowly falls for him, and given the timey-wimeyness of at all, its the first time she ever believed in fate. Alas, she knows how the story turns out. And so when she gets pregnant and realizes Matthew is going to propose, she runs away, coming back only to give him the baby.
(heh, when she was describing Cole's mom to him, an astute observer would note that the description totally applies to Hannah to, given Hannah and Emma's similarities)
And then she just kept away, watching young Cole and her mother from afar, until the fateful night she met back up with them on the way to the airport. Cole doesn't even realize he knows his mother until its too late. It is pretty crazy, particularly back in the earlier seasons where they had to cure young Hannah and fake her death so Jones would make the machine. Little did he know was ensuring his own birth. And it always seemed like there was a motherly vibe between James and Katarina, turns out it was Grandmotherly. The whole thing is so tragic that Cassie, defeated by the insanity of it all, drops the virus vial (wait, she didn't have the breather, wouldn't she be infected?)
So yeah, once they discover the truth, Katarina and James splinter a bit earlier to talk to Hannah before she meets up with Cassie and Cole. The three generations have one last drink before letting fate resume its course. And its really a sad storyline.
And things are gonna be even worse for James- while the stuff in 2017 is happening, Jennifer, Jones, and Adler try to make sense of the program sent. As Jennifer says, it was well hidden, so why would the Primaries "gift wrap a needle in a haystack". Which is when they realize those dates are just Cole's splinters. Entering the dates into the program and running a simulation shows it will fix time.
But what it means is the weapon is meant to erase James from all points in time. Because it turns out he's the demon in the story, not Olivia. So it'll be interesting to see how this all ends.
