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geebsTV commentary:
Walking Dead- Ha, are you serious?! So a team consisting of Rick, Carl, Abraham, Aaron, and Eugene trek in the RV to take Maggie to the hilltop. Enid wanted to go too, but Carl ends up locking her in a closet. Which, it would be kinda hilarious after all this for them to come back to Alexandria and open the door to find her turned into a zombie, having died of starvation or suffocation or whatever. Hopefully he told someone she was in there! Anyways, Father Gabriel is in charge, but John from Cincinnati asks Rick a legitimate question, like what do they do if the Saviors show up and they're not back? And Rick blows it off all, "Heh, tell them to wait for me, I got a deal for them!"
See, its exactly this kinda cockiness that ends them up shit's creek. Like, seriously, the majority of the best fighters are gone, and I think he was asking a valid question. I mean, Father Gabriel was telling Rick he knows the rendezvous points and all that, which is fine if the Saviors actually showed up and managed to bust up the town and they have to run. But yeah, what about the situation where the Saviors are just wanting to talk, but Rick and company are nowhere to be seen? Like, Rick is talking jokingly, but really, is that what he wants them to do, stall? Does he want them to fight as long as they can and flee? Its like, give them some clear instructions!
But yeah, as the gang tries to make it to the not so hilltoppy Hilltop, they find their routes are all blocked off by Saviors, who taunt them at every turn, showing they have Glenn, Daryl, Rosita, and Michonne, and killing some random person from a different place they don't even know. Eugene comes up with the idea to have him drive the RV as a ruse to draw the Saviors away, while the gang tries to carry Maggie to the Hilltop on foot. He even gives Rick the recipe to build bullets, just in case.
Heh, we find out later he's captured pretty much immediately, and the gang had been herded into a huge gathering of Saviors. Because all the groups they encountered on the road were different, Rick suspected the Saviors were a bigger group than he thought, but I think seeing the group gathered, it sinks in how they bit off more than they can chew.
Which, you can't fault Rick for being cocky- I mean, how much have they survived? Governor parts I and II, Terminus, the Wolves? Also, I guess its hard to conceive that Negan managed to gather this many people and organized them. I think Rick's people are more skilled individually than any of Negan's men because of what they've been through, its just that the numbers are too much.
After all, Negan even tells them they've killed a significant number of his men, which is why he had to go for this overly dramatic theatrical display of power. Because even with the few dozen they've killed so far, Negan easily has much more than that just at this gathering.
(Oh, heh, I saw someone on Tumblr say "John Winchester was resurrected without a soul, and then gathered a bunch of Hunters and called themselves the Saviors", which I found funny because the pan across Negan and his men totally looked like that! I mean, the hunters on Supernatural do act and dress like post-apocalyptic tough guys, so it matches.)
But yeah, as punishment for their insolence, Negan has to beat on of their brains in with a baseball bat. In the comics, its Glenn, but heh, the freaking show has Negan pick someone, but we don't see who it is as we see it in a POV perspective. All we know is its not Rick or Carl (not that it would be), since Negan tells his men to cut Carl's other eye out and feed it to Rick if anyone tries to stop him from beating in the brains of whoever this person was. Who we see most certainly gets brained with Lucille, we just don't know who.
Which is pretty lame of the show to manufacture drama by having people wonder who it is that died. At least we know someone was indeed attacked, so no coming back and finding out Negan was about to beat someone to death, but he got stopped at the last minute for some reason.
Oh, there was a B plot where that one surviving Savior manages to corner Carol and tortures her by shooting her, causing Morgan to finally break his no-killing oath to save her. After, they bump into a couple of Kingdom guys. Which that'll be cool to see them. And honestly, I think Morgan and Carol with their philosophical crises are the best people to interact with the Kingdom folks. Of all the characters, they have strict codes they abide by- Morgan had the whole life is precious thing, and was refusing to kill (until now), while Carol was all about doing anything and everything to ensure her survival and that of her loved ones. So them with a bunch of yahoos who fancy themselves knights should bring up interesting discussions.
Ha, if the show really wants to piss people off, they won't even show who died in the first ep, they'll make it about Morgan and Carol meeting the kingdom folks and not even show the outcome of Negan's beatdown. But, I think the show knows if they did that, people wold riot.
Walking Dead- Ha, are you serious?! So a team consisting of Rick, Carl, Abraham, Aaron, and Eugene trek in the RV to take Maggie to the hilltop. Enid wanted to go too, but Carl ends up locking her in a closet. Which, it would be kinda hilarious after all this for them to come back to Alexandria and open the door to find her turned into a zombie, having died of starvation or suffocation or whatever. Hopefully he told someone she was in there! Anyways, Father Gabriel is in charge, but John from Cincinnati asks Rick a legitimate question, like what do they do if the Saviors show up and they're not back? And Rick blows it off all, "Heh, tell them to wait for me, I got a deal for them!"
See, its exactly this kinda cockiness that ends them up shit's creek. Like, seriously, the majority of the best fighters are gone, and I think he was asking a valid question. I mean, Father Gabriel was telling Rick he knows the rendezvous points and all that, which is fine if the Saviors actually showed up and managed to bust up the town and they have to run. But yeah, what about the situation where the Saviors are just wanting to talk, but Rick and company are nowhere to be seen? Like, Rick is talking jokingly, but really, is that what he wants them to do, stall? Does he want them to fight as long as they can and flee? Its like, give them some clear instructions!
But yeah, as the gang tries to make it to the not so hilltoppy Hilltop, they find their routes are all blocked off by Saviors, who taunt them at every turn, showing they have Glenn, Daryl, Rosita, and Michonne, and killing some random person from a different place they don't even know. Eugene comes up with the idea to have him drive the RV as a ruse to draw the Saviors away, while the gang tries to carry Maggie to the Hilltop on foot. He even gives Rick the recipe to build bullets, just in case.
Heh, we find out later he's captured pretty much immediately, and the gang had been herded into a huge gathering of Saviors. Because all the groups they encountered on the road were different, Rick suspected the Saviors were a bigger group than he thought, but I think seeing the group gathered, it sinks in how they bit off more than they can chew.
Which, you can't fault Rick for being cocky- I mean, how much have they survived? Governor parts I and II, Terminus, the Wolves? Also, I guess its hard to conceive that Negan managed to gather this many people and organized them. I think Rick's people are more skilled individually than any of Negan's men because of what they've been through, its just that the numbers are too much.
After all, Negan even tells them they've killed a significant number of his men, which is why he had to go for this overly dramatic theatrical display of power. Because even with the few dozen they've killed so far, Negan easily has much more than that just at this gathering.
(Oh, heh, I saw someone on Tumblr say "John Winchester was resurrected without a soul, and then gathered a bunch of Hunters and called themselves the Saviors", which I found funny because the pan across Negan and his men totally looked like that! I mean, the hunters on Supernatural do act and dress like post-apocalyptic tough guys, so it matches.)
But yeah, as punishment for their insolence, Negan has to beat on of their brains in with a baseball bat. In the comics, its Glenn, but heh, the freaking show has Negan pick someone, but we don't see who it is as we see it in a POV perspective. All we know is its not Rick or Carl (not that it would be), since Negan tells his men to cut Carl's other eye out and feed it to Rick if anyone tries to stop him from beating in the brains of whoever this person was. Who we see most certainly gets brained with Lucille, we just don't know who.
Which is pretty lame of the show to manufacture drama by having people wonder who it is that died. At least we know someone was indeed attacked, so no coming back and finding out Negan was about to beat someone to death, but he got stopped at the last minute for some reason.
Oh, there was a B plot where that one surviving Savior manages to corner Carol and tortures her by shooting her, causing Morgan to finally break his no-killing oath to save her. After, they bump into a couple of Kingdom guys. Which that'll be cool to see them. And honestly, I think Morgan and Carol with their philosophical crises are the best people to interact with the Kingdom folks. Of all the characters, they have strict codes they abide by- Morgan had the whole life is precious thing, and was refusing to kill (until now), while Carol was all about doing anything and everything to ensure her survival and that of her loved ones. So them with a bunch of yahoos who fancy themselves knights should bring up interesting discussions.
Ha, if the show really wants to piss people off, they won't even show who died in the first ep, they'll make it about Morgan and Carol meeting the kingdom folks and not even show the outcome of Negan's beatdown. But, I think the show knows if they did that, people wold riot.
