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[geebs]

WO blather- What the frick? Okay, I had to look the Katsuie thing up, and apparently he did have the twin axes in SW2:XL! I have no recollection of that all. I looked back in my LJ (hey, this thing is good for something) under the sw2 tab and I do comment on him having a good moveset, but I don't go into specifics. I didn't mention the weapon, but thinking about this more, I seem to now remember thinking he did twin axes better than Pang De in DW5.

Still, I remember everyone else from SW2's moves pretty well. And its not like I didn't play Katsuie a bunch in SW2:XL, because I fired it up in the old PS2 and apparently I maxed him out! Actually, I was more shocked that I hadn't maxed everyone out, there were 7 people who weren't at level 70: Hideyoshi, Nene, Mitsunari, Oichi, Okuni, No, and Takeda. Which given frigging Yoshimoto was maxed I'm totally skeptical! Why the hell would I play that freak to completion and not some of the aformentioned?

But I digress, my only guess as to not remembering Katsuie is he wasn't in the original WO? But neither were Kojiro and Gracia, but when I played them, nothing seemed unfamiliar. I mean, I know Kojiro was my favorite SW2:XL character, but Gracia didn't feel like I'd never played her before.

Anyhoo, I've started using a new grinding level for weapons- Dong Zhou's ambition. Its a DLC stage, 10 stars, pretty easy though. Well, up until the end, where it can be very dangerous because Magoichi brings a crapload of rifleman who can wipe you out if you don't move out of the way fast and quickly kill them. Well, that and being a hard difficulty, if you get unlucky and get hit by an enemy officer's musou directly, its auto death. As I said, I'd been doing Rescue at Xi Ling, which has way more officers, but takes slightly longer to complete. I was also doing Dueling Heroes, which is another fun stage since you get to take on hordes of demons with several officers, plus Achilles, Kojiro and Nemea (or Musashi if you're playing Nemea). Its about as easy as DZ's Ambition, but one less star, so why not go for the same difficulty, but better rewards?

Although given the randomness of the appearance of gold attributes, it is very frustrating when I don't get anything. Or I get the wrong things, like confluence.

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[turdburgler.livejournal.com]

Katsuie wasn't in SW2 so he wasn't in the original WO. XL came out after WO I think.

[geebs.livejournal.com]

I suspected that was the case. I coulda sworn I remember expressing surprise that one of the WO games included the XL characters when XL came out not long before, but heh, thinking about it now, that might've been WO3 itself. HA!

I guess one of the things that made me unsure was I remembered a stage where Kojiro and Kotaro show up together as the bad guys, ready to kill some peeps, and I didn't think they'd have occasion to work together in the normal game, but that might've just been one of the special XL stages.

Of course, I'm totally annoyed there's a new character in DW7: Empires (which is not my cup of tea), Xu Shu that isn't in this game. That and the PSP version of WO3 has an extra character as well, Rachel from Ninja Gaiden. Its like, I want to play all the characters, dammit! And I've gotten over the Bladestorm and Troy thing, but after seeing the character designs from whatever the hell game that Nemea guy is from (Trinity: souls of zill oil or something?), that they didn't port over more characters from that.

[turdburgler.livejournal.com]

Also, Kojiro was playable in SW2 under a certain set of circumstances. He looked the same in SW2 as he did SW2:XL, but they expanded his moveset for XL. Katsuie was an NPC in SW2 but looked nothing like his SW2:XL playable character and was not playable at all until XL. He had some speaking lines in SW2 in the Anegawa stage though, I remember.

[geebs.livejournal.com]

It was through Nene, because one of the ninja magic powers was to turn into other characters randomly who were close by, and you could get her to turn into Kojiro.

They did a bunch of tweaking of Katsuie throughout SW2 and XL. I think in the original, they made him kinda a creepy perv who Oichi was promised to after Nagamasa was defeated. But in XL, I looked back on my comments about him in LJ, and they made him more "Klingon" like, the proud, honorable warrior who lives for battle.

They also kinda changed his relationship with Oichi throughout the games. I mean, obviously Nagamasa was her one true love, but in the games, after he was killed, she started out as Katsuie's virtual prisoner. And then I think in XL, it was less prisoner and more sticking with him out of honor. And I think by the third game, it was like the romanticizing of Diao Chan and Lu Bu's relationship over the course of the game, where Diao Chan was less using him and actually loved Lu Bu.

Now, I'm not saying Oichi had feeling for Katsuie, her heart always belonged to Nagamasa, but in the later games, she acknowledged how devoted Katsuie was to her, and cared about him as much as she could without actually being in love with him. Because whatever stage it is where he dies, he tries to send her away, and she actually wants to die along side him.