Sucker MC's should call me sire
Jun. 6th, 2008 10:13 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
geebsIn my previous post, the article about the weapons in MGS4 only listed 10 weapons. Apparently there are 70 weapons available though? I noticed in the picture of Raging Raven she's wielding a M-32 MGL. I wonder if that's one of the weapons available for you to use, because I've always thought it was the sweetness. 6 40mm grenades down range as fast as you can pull the trigger? Talk about dropping the hammer.
But in one of the demo videos earlier this year, the programmers showed a menu during the demo listing some more of the weapons. There's the HK MP5SD5, SD indicating its the silenced version, and the second 5 meaning its the fixed stock version. There's the Glock 18c which you may remeber Morpheus using, paired with a katana in Matrix Reloaded. Also on the list is the Vz-83, which I assume is the the Skorpion, the 83 version being chambered for .380 acp. I also figured they'd have to have more sniper rifles besides the M14 EBR, which is accurate, but not actually intended for true sniping. One of the next things on the list is the DSR-1, which is a interesting choice, because its not as famous as the HK PSG-1, the AW-series, or the big Barrett. The ign video accompanying the article I mentioned, I also saw a quick flash of a modified Colt M1911 (which Jessica Chobot refers to as an "Operator", though I think several of the companies making custom Colts have custom guns with "Operator" in the name) and what I assume is a SOCOM pistol. I mean, it looks like the SOCOM, particularly when they add the suppressor. It looks like Knight's suppressor for the SOCOM, identifiable by the little dimples throughout the length of the suppressor. And Snake's used one before, it makes sense for him to have it again.
But there's also a screenshot of Snake using the Javelin and the RPG-7. Which I find interesting since they're the two ends of the man-portable missile spectrum. The Javelin is a sophisticated anti-tank weapon, programmed to hit the tank from the top, where the armor is weaker. Its also extremely expensive. One issue our forces in the Middle East have been running into is the fact that the enemies aren't using friggin' tanks. Using Javelins against the makeshift fighting vehicles the insurgents have cobbled together from pickups and other trucks is not only over-kill but not very cost-effective. The launcher is $126,000, and each missile is around $78,000! But in our strive for technological superiority, we kinda glossed over the need for a cheap missile system you can use to take out a suicide bomber driving a pickup towards our assets.
The RPG-7, on the other hand is old-ass (its from the 60s), no sophisticated guidance (aim through the sights and fire), and while I think they've been updating the warheads to keep them somewhat effective against modern tanks, their range/power doesn't compare to our anti-tank weapons. But its cheap, and good for a big boom. (Hmm, they apparently make Thermobaric warheads for it, which are intense!) As I said, the Javelin mentioned above was more than $200,000 for the launcher plus just one missile. Since the Ruskies flooded the 3rd world with their weapons during the cold war, you can pick them up cheap! The going price in Iraq is around $200 for the launcher and just 20 bucks for the rockets! And you don't need the bells and whistles of the Javelin in the fighting in Iraq!
In urban fighting, you don't need sophisticated guidance systems since everyone's up close anyways. And you don't use tanks to patrol civilian areas, so you don't need tank-killing warheads. The RPG-7 is more than capable of handling Hummers, though I'm not sure how well they do against Strykers. I think they added armor to the Strykers to make them more resilient vs weapons like the RPG-7, but the extra armor also makes them handle like crap. Also, Somalia proved you don't need fancy sensors to take down choppers (which reminds me, I bet MGS4 will have Stingers) - Blackhawk Down, since there were so many buildings full of enemies around, they could just stand on the rooftops firing rpg-7s (since they're so cheap) and only one had to hit to take a chopper down. Even nowadays, in city infighting, our weapons are more accurate and our troops better trained, but the insurgents use the RPG-7s as a cover-fire weapon, just raining down rockets to keep our troops' heads down while the insurgents try to get closer and gain tactical advantage.
But I digress, I'm egg-cited to see what other weapons are available in the game, and think its totally awesome that you accessorize them. Its like dress-up, but for boys!
But in one of the demo videos earlier this year, the programmers showed a menu during the demo listing some more of the weapons. There's the HK MP5SD5, SD indicating its the silenced version, and the second 5 meaning its the fixed stock version. There's the Glock 18c which you may remeber Morpheus using, paired with a katana in Matrix Reloaded. Also on the list is the Vz-83, which I assume is the the Skorpion, the 83 version being chambered for .380 acp. I also figured they'd have to have more sniper rifles besides the M14 EBR, which is accurate, but not actually intended for true sniping. One of the next things on the list is the DSR-1, which is a interesting choice, because its not as famous as the HK PSG-1, the AW-series, or the big Barrett. The ign video accompanying the article I mentioned, I also saw a quick flash of a modified Colt M1911 (which Jessica Chobot refers to as an "Operator", though I think several of the companies making custom Colts have custom guns with "Operator" in the name) and what I assume is a SOCOM pistol. I mean, it looks like the SOCOM, particularly when they add the suppressor. It looks like Knight's suppressor for the SOCOM, identifiable by the little dimples throughout the length of the suppressor. And Snake's used one before, it makes sense for him to have it again.
But there's also a screenshot of Snake using the Javelin and the RPG-7. Which I find interesting since they're the two ends of the man-portable missile spectrum. The Javelin is a sophisticated anti-tank weapon, programmed to hit the tank from the top, where the armor is weaker. Its also extremely expensive. One issue our forces in the Middle East have been running into is the fact that the enemies aren't using friggin' tanks. Using Javelins against the makeshift fighting vehicles the insurgents have cobbled together from pickups and other trucks is not only over-kill but not very cost-effective. The launcher is $126,000, and each missile is around $78,000! But in our strive for technological superiority, we kinda glossed over the need for a cheap missile system you can use to take out a suicide bomber driving a pickup towards our assets.
The RPG-7, on the other hand is old-ass (its from the 60s), no sophisticated guidance (aim through the sights and fire), and while I think they've been updating the warheads to keep them somewhat effective against modern tanks, their range/power doesn't compare to our anti-tank weapons. But its cheap, and good for a big boom. (Hmm, they apparently make Thermobaric warheads for it, which are intense!) As I said, the Javelin mentioned above was more than $200,000 for the launcher plus just one missile. Since the Ruskies flooded the 3rd world with their weapons during the cold war, you can pick them up cheap! The going price in Iraq is around $200 for the launcher and just 20 bucks for the rockets! And you don't need the bells and whistles of the Javelin in the fighting in Iraq!
In urban fighting, you don't need sophisticated guidance systems since everyone's up close anyways. And you don't use tanks to patrol civilian areas, so you don't need tank-killing warheads. The RPG-7 is more than capable of handling Hummers, though I'm not sure how well they do against Strykers. I think they added armor to the Strykers to make them more resilient vs weapons like the RPG-7, but the extra armor also makes them handle like crap. Also, Somalia proved you don't need fancy sensors to take down choppers (which reminds me, I bet MGS4 will have Stingers) - Blackhawk Down, since there were so many buildings full of enemies around, they could just stand on the rooftops firing rpg-7s (since they're so cheap) and only one had to hit to take a chopper down. Even nowadays, in city infighting, our weapons are more accurate and our troops better trained, but the insurgents use the RPG-7s as a cover-fire weapon, just raining down rockets to keep our troops' heads down while the insurgents try to get closer and gain tactical advantage.
But I digress, I'm egg-cited to see what other weapons are available in the game, and think its totally awesome that you accessorize them. Its like dress-up, but for boys!
