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Aug. 3rd, 2019 11:47 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
geebsSaw Hobbs and Shaw today. It was a fun action movie. But in their quest to redeem Shaw since he's a protagonist now, I feel they're retconning things in his back story that don't make sense.
Also, the number of new characters they added her, are they creating their own ensemble, in order to have a big supergroup when the movies cross back over?
So on to my first point- so when Shaw was first introduced, he was this bad guy, even badder than his brother. There were hints it was a frame job in F8 though, and this movie confirms it. Which, whatever, that's fine, if Hattie hadn't disowned him because she believed he went bad. So, when its revealed he didn't do half the bad things they said he did, she's happy and apologizes for believing the lie.
Which, they act like he was this nice guy who was wrongfully accused, and how could she ever think that? How could she think her brother was bad, just like her other brother who was bad, and their mom is a crime lord. I mean, when they were kids they used to be getting into trouble and pulling little heists! As it was, its more odd that he's good given their family background.
And don't forget, he did kill Han! At the very least, he did admit he did some bad things on the run that he needs to make amends for. So maybe he meant that.
Also, even though this was about a fed and a spy teaming up to fight a weird techno-cult with a cyborg supersoldier, I'm amused by them shoe-horning street racing stuff with Hobb's family. So we find out Hobb's backstory of his father being a big criminal (so both of them come from criminal families?), but he was this asshole who didn't care that it was endangering his family. When Hobbs realized the guy was willing to throw him and his brothers lives away, he turned him in, then left Samoa to become a DSS agent.
Anyways, so when he returns to Samoa we see his brothers run a custom shop, which again just seems like a clunky way to keep the movie to its racing roots.
But yeah, getting to the whole ensemble thing, we see both Shaw's and Hobbs' families. But we also meet Madame M and her supermodel gang. And then there's Ryan Reynolds as a CIA agent and Kevin Hart as an air marshall, both of whom act like comic relief and are all Hobbs and Shaw superfans, but are actually super competent. More than their personalities/demeanor would indicate.
Also, the number of new characters they added her, are they creating their own ensemble, in order to have a big supergroup when the movies cross back over?
So on to my first point- so when Shaw was first introduced, he was this bad guy, even badder than his brother. There were hints it was a frame job in F8 though, and this movie confirms it. Which, whatever, that's fine, if Hattie hadn't disowned him because she believed he went bad. So, when its revealed he didn't do half the bad things they said he did, she's happy and apologizes for believing the lie.
Which, they act like he was this nice guy who was wrongfully accused, and how could she ever think that? How could she think her brother was bad, just like her other brother who was bad, and their mom is a crime lord. I mean, when they were kids they used to be getting into trouble and pulling little heists! As it was, its more odd that he's good given their family background.
And don't forget, he did kill Han! At the very least, he did admit he did some bad things on the run that he needs to make amends for. So maybe he meant that.
Also, even though this was about a fed and a spy teaming up to fight a weird techno-cult with a cyborg supersoldier, I'm amused by them shoe-horning street racing stuff with Hobb's family. So we find out Hobb's backstory of his father being a big criminal (so both of them come from criminal families?), but he was this asshole who didn't care that it was endangering his family. When Hobbs realized the guy was willing to throw him and his brothers lives away, he turned him in, then left Samoa to become a DSS agent.
Anyways, so when he returns to Samoa we see his brothers run a custom shop, which again just seems like a clunky way to keep the movie to its racing roots.
But yeah, getting to the whole ensemble thing, we see both Shaw's and Hobbs' families. But we also meet Madame M and her supermodel gang. And then there's Ryan Reynolds as a CIA agent and Kevin Hart as an air marshall, both of whom act like comic relief and are all Hobbs and Shaw superfans, but are actually super competent. More than their personalities/demeanor would indicate.
